MotoQuest founder Phil Freeman was recently invited onto Adventure Rider Radio. Phil joined host Jim Martin to talk about what it takes to ride to the top of the world via Dalton Highway in Alaska.

The episode starts out with an interview with Shawn Kitchen, a commercial truck driver and certified Smith System trainer. The Smith System was originally designed to train truck drivers, and as an avid motorcyclist, Kitchen saw an opportunity to share this 5-step system with fellow riders.

But if you’d like to skip ahead to Phil’s interview, head over to the 33:40 mark.

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